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13 August 2012

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Andy's RANT!

Re Js5brown @ 1118pm 14/08/2012,
Your comment is spot on. There’s a lot of “green” to be made in being green.

Andy's RANT!

RE TGF @ 0848pm 14/08/2012,
You are just being mischievous. My post is about highlighting the dirty production of neodymium magnets which among other things, are used in the generators of wind turbines.
Your comment actually supports my post by highlighting the other processed rare earths which are predominately processed in China. The facts are the processing of rare earths into the various metals is a highly toxic process. Yet people like you and the other ecoloons are ok to claim that wind power is clean and green. This post proves that wind power isn’t clean and green.

Js5brown

Here in America, particularly our electric utility service territory, we have over 200 'Mega' Turbines designed to put out over 2 MW each but are backed up by the local cooperative utility which is 98% coal. If people WANT and NEED energy and Wind is available, by all means utilize it. Just don't systematically and purposefully RAISE the cost of Coal and Nuclear and other fossil fuels just to make COAL and others the same WHOLESALE price at the meter as Wind....making Wind look "good". Sorry...i'm not stupid. When the Chicago Merc Exchange begins to sell "Carbon Credits" and hypocritical liars like AL GORE are set up to win the day" for green 'investments' then I know it is simply...once again...ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. Not the enviroment. WE have short term officials going in now better informed, but wholesale rates have risin nearly 100% in the past 8 years! Crazy!! Somebody tackle EPA here and cut their damn budget!! Sheesh!!

TheGalileoFraud

Andy, you are misrepresenting what the rare earth factories produce there. Care to put some balance and fact into your article? Those rare earth factories also produce the following which you appear to deliberately omit, which include:
- Neodymium, used for loud speakers, microphones, headphones, computer hard disks.
- Cerium, the most widespread rare earth metals, used in catalytic converters and diesel fuels to reduce vehicles' carbon monoxide emissions.
- Praseodymium, used as an alloying agent with magnesium to make high-strength metals for aircraft engines.
The rare earth factories are also used to produce less benign items including;
- Gadolinium, Dysprosium, Holmium, Erbium for use in control rods at nuclear power plants.
http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/translating-uncle-sam/stories/what-are-rare-earth-metals

Andy's RANT!

Re TheGalileoFraud,

A correction has been noted on my post. An accurate photo of the rare earth processing plants in Baotou has replaced the incorrect photo.

TheGalileoFraud

Andy, you are very incorrect. The above photo is NOT from rare earth factories in Baotou, China, the photo posted is actually of pollution from the coal fueled Lasengmiao Power Plant in Inner Mongolia (located above China). The image has nothing to do with wind turbine production. You are falsely representing the image. The original image of the power plant at http://contact.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/China-Pollution-CI/G0000561QZvJu4qs/I0000wl7gq.UGMvw
Previous correction http://on.fb.me/PdWSgn

Mypomona

Not detracting from your message - however Gladstone Power Station is not the largest in QLD. That accolade belongs to Callide Power Station. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callide_Power_Station

JaimeDinamarca

Hey, Andy, how recent is the photo of the chimneys in Baotou?

Drewe Bantick

Here in Australia a 3MW wind turbine that generates (at most) $150,000 worth of electricity a year is eligible for guaranteed subsidies of $500,000 a year. These monstrosities generate very little power but an awful lot of free cash for those lucky enough to get their snouts in the trough.

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